# After the Last Engineer (ATL/E)

> A business podcast about software dark factories, for founders and CTOs. Hosted by Danail Arapkuliev, a product person who is not an engineer, and Vitaliy Filipov, a senior engineer who builds autonomous delivery systems. Made by Camplight.

Every guest answers one question: where do you still keep the lights on? The answers map where people stay in real software factories.

Agents: read https://atle-site.netlify.app/AGENTS.md first.

## Episodes

- [EP. 00 · We are building our podcast in public](https://atle-site.netlify.app/episodes/00-build-in-public.md): 1 Oct 2026
- [EP. 01 · Your job was never to write code](https://atle-site.netlify.app/episodes/01-vladimir-petrov.md): Vladimir Petrov, Cobalt Code. 1 Oct 2026. Full transcript
- [EP. 02 · Is the future of software engineering a factory?](https://atle-site.netlify.app/episodes/02-patrick-debois.md): Patrick Debois, Tessl. 15 Oct 2026. Full transcript
- [EP. 03 · A lot more light rooms inside](https://atle-site.netlify.app/episodes/03-milko-slavov.md): Milko Slavov, felan.ai. 29 Oct 2026
- [EP. 04 · Episode four](https://atle-site.netlify.app/episodes/04-boris-paskalev.md): Boris Paskalev, LogicStar. 12 Nov 2026, upcoming

- [about.md](https://atle-site.netlify.app/about.md): the positioning. The show answers its own questions: the belief, who it is for, what it never says, who makes it
- [evidence.md](https://atle-site.netlify.app/evidence.md): what the show has learned. Lessons, factories, tools, events and news, each with an episode second or a URL

## Data

- [episodes.json](https://atle-site.netlify.app/episodes.json): every episode with guest, date, lights-on answer, what broke and quotes
- [factories.json](https://atle-site.netlify.app/factories.json): the 75 software factories we track, with darkness level L0 to L5
- [graph.json](https://atle-site.netlify.app/graph.json): the knowledge graph. People, companies, episodes, concepts, rooms, incidents, factories. Edges carry the episode and the second

## Listen

- [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/@afterthelastengineer)
- [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/show/69z2GJkKq5qzFf6N9wwQaC)